You are Completely Wrong, Jayne Part 6

Summary

  1. “Dude, I never mentioned men in general on POF.” —–You don’t HAVE to explicitly mention something in order for the audience to establish intent.  You seem to think that it’s “all the man’s fault” if he is not getting responses.  In fact, whether a man is “nice” or not is moot in the online dating world.  Every man that enters POF faces the same challenge of women who believe they are far greater than they really are.  POF is filled with princesses that think they are too good anything but the perfect man.
  2. “And trying to make this about me or moving goal posts won’t work with me.” —– Sorry, we have only involved your experience as you have introduced it yourself.  Even so, considering the history of you taunting others on conjured personal challenges, you hardly have the latitude to think that involving the personal domain of your opposition is only your privilege.  You haven’t even addressed the current challenges.  No goal posts were moved.
  3. “How about you and your brethren not take things so personally and then you won’t feel so put upon.” —– I can’t speak for the “brotherhood”, but you needn’t worry, it’s more humour than harm.  I must have a sadistic streak as it is like shooting fish in a barrel at times… but seriously, it’s all about seeing things objectively.
  4. “You know you’re in the wrong, just admit it.” —– ROFLMAO.  Seriously?  Not only is it highly unlikely that anyone in the readership will agree with this baseless assertion, it is doubtful that you believe this yourself.  Sure, you are trying to save face, but seriously?  You provide absolutely no defence of my rebuttals… and I am “in the wrong”?

Attention to Intention

JuliaJayne1 Wrote:

“Dude, I never mentioned men in general on POF. There are lots of nice men there who, thankfully, aren’t representative of the men HERE, who clearly are disgusting.”

Answer:

One doesn’t have to explicitly say something.  They only have to imply it.  You are well aware of this as you apply innuendo quite frequently to give you leeway.  (Incidentally, the “I never said that” angle is unlikely to work in a civil or criminal defence… all that is needed is enough evidence to establish intent).  You seem to think that it’s “all the man’s fault” if he is not getting responses.  At the risk of sounding as condescending as you do, I will walk you through how your attitude was deduced.

You mentioned, “women like men who like women”.  That is in the record.

It is well known that most men find that hundreds of honest solicitation gets only a couple of replies, of which the women may not even be truthfully representing herself.  I am sure you will coyly disagree with this, but it is pretty easy to find corroboration online (right, it MUST be that all the guys who notice this are of the ugly, fat, stupid, etc… type).

Most of these men (well, really all of them) clearly state that their successful solicitation rate on POF is far below what they achieve in the real world.  It is also mentioned that they don’t over-reach (as in they seek women online with similar attractive levels of those they seek in the real world).

Unless ALL of these men are fabricating what is practically the exact same experience, it stands to reason that it is the women on POF that don’t think these men are good enough.  As you are clearly a defender of the attitude of these women, by inference of your “women like men who like women” edict, these men either (a) don’t like women, or (b) are not worthy in their eyes.

Since (a) is precluded by the fact that these men are explicitly seeking the companionship of women, (b) is the reasonable conclusion.

Again, it’s not merely the “men HERE” that have the same complaint about the inflated egos of POF Princesses.  Whether a man is “nice” or not is not relevant to how a Princess decides to reciprocate contact.  You are merely trying to deflect from admitting to the prevalence of the princess attitude on POF.

Playing Field Tectonics

JuliaJayne1 Wrote:

“And trying to make this about me or moving goal posts won’t work with me.”

Answer:

Lol.  Oh, but it has.

First of all, it was you that introduced yourself into the subject matter.  Do you need to be reminded that you used your own experience as support for your claims?  Here is the excerpt in case you have forgotten:

“But to your point, yes, there are many wonderful men out there and I’ve been privileged to know some.”

Secondly, you have expended every effort to personally involve every one who opposes your view by directing personal insults and taunts in the direction of “the loser types” here.  Apparently you are good at slinging the mud, but feel that none should be directed back at you.  Curious.

Thirdly, the opposing view is that the arrogant attitude of POF princesses is essentially why some men have adopted more creative advertising.  You also plainly oppose the notion that it is women that have initiated hostility by claiming they retain the right to restrict responses to merely shouting pejoratives because they are offended by the article.  This is the very same “holier than thou” attitude of the Princesses you defend… and it is “not” about you?

Don’t bring it up, and others might not.  Being that you have, you have no claim to your personal stake’s neutrality.

As far as moving the goal posts…

Just where has this been done?  In fact, you have yet to counter a single one of the refutations levelled against your arguments.  Try scoring on the goal where it is right now, before accusing others of raising the requirements.

Brother, can you spare a Dame?

JuliaJayne1 Wrote:

“How about you and your brethren not take things so personally and then you won’t feel so put upon.”

Answer:

This is just too funny for words.  Really.  You vainly hope that others are being hurt by childish name-calling and insults.  No one is “put upon” by your derogatory remarks and condescending views.  I can’t speak for everyone, but the laughter that goes on as I type is to the point I feel bad (since I am laughing at someone else’s expense).  However, I temper that with the knowledge that, whether you realize it or not, I am actually helping people get a more objective view of things (and that I can’t be accused of looking at porn… unless it’s like “clown” porn or something equally absurd… OW… thanks a lot.  I just got smacked in the back of the head).

Defacing the Truth

 

JuliaJayne1 Wrote:

“You know you’re in the wrong, just admit it. Really, quit promulgating misery and seek to be the kind of person who you would like to attract, as I said before. Btw, you’re welcome.”

Answer:

ROLFMAO (really, I wonder what I shall sit on now that my rear end has become detached).

Not only is it highly unlikely that anyone in the readership will agree with this baseless assertion, it is doubtful that you believe this yourself.  Sure, you are trying to save face, but seriously?  You provide absolutely no defence of my rebuttals… and I am “in the wrong”?

I promulgate misery?  No.  All I have done is expose the blatant fallacies and faulty foundation of your position on this matter.  To that end, your actions demonstrate the torment of misplaced aggression.  I merely strip away the thin veneer of bravado by providing clarity.

Why, yes.  Thank you for making it this easy to prove that those opposing the move to more embellishment are wrong.

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